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Ok, so we have 2 names to pick from: Shattered Star Community and The Shattered Star.
With those we have a choice of tags: STR (shortened version of star, but could also have a double meaning of strength which I think works quite nicely). Or SSC and TSS which is what both names abbreviate to by themselves. The latter option (The Shattered Star) deliberately includes the "The" in the name so as to not have our name read as "SS".
[Edit1: Added SSTR for The Shattered Star]
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With those we have a choice of tags: STR (shortened version of star, but could also have a double meaning of strength which I think works quite nicely). Or SSC and TSS which is what both names abbreviate to by themselves. The latter option (The Shattered Star) deliberately includes the "The" in the name so as to not have our name read as "SS".
[Edit1: Added SSTR for The Shattered Star]
[Edit2: Adding the above has unfortunately reset the vote and will require those who had already voted to vote again. Very sorry for the inconvenience.
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I'm voting for the name I wanted since Neocron days.
No-Talent Ass-Clowns.
Or NTAC for short.
No-Talent Ass-Clowns.
Or NTAC for short.
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Option two is my clear favourite here. Though I totally agree that =SS= should not be on the table.
Nice out of the box thinking MS: I actually really like =STARS= (or perhaps =STAR= as we're a singular shattered star, added bonus of reducing the number of letters in the tag). Either way it seems like a nice nod to our space based game origins.
(I also have no problem with =TSS= which I think might have a lot more availability in games. If tag availability does prove to be an issue then at least we have a hierarchy of different options we can call upon.)
Nice out of the box thinking MS: I actually really like =STARS= (or perhaps =STAR= as we're a singular shattered star, added bonus of reducing the number of letters in the tag). Either way it seems like a nice nod to our space based game origins.
(I also have no problem with =TSS= which I think might have a lot more availability in games. If tag availability does prove to be an issue then at least we have a hierarchy of different options we can call upon.)
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Well, I always like the 'Armada' or 'Naval Armada' take.
So, how about Armada of the Shattered Star or ASS
We could even add a tagline to it and logo it up!
Armada of the Shattered Star
Hunting bounties, mining Assets, secure Transport, and top-notch Security
When you need the peace of mind that only professional can offer, call the ASSHATS
So, how about Armada of the Shattered Star or ASS
We could even add a tagline to it and logo it up!
Armada of the Shattered Star
Hunting bounties, mining Assets, secure Transport, and top-notch Security
When you need the peace of mind that only professional can offer, call the ASSHATS
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On a serious note:
We're going on 4 weeks with this stuff and this thread has been open for 35hrs now. You guys wanted to continue discussion regardless of the fact that our previous poll results have always been carried, and so that's what we're doing. Can we please do that and get on with it? and seriouslyM.Steiner wrote:If we're to do the latter then I suggest we make those short as well. Perhaps 3-4 days for the brainstorming and then 3-4 days for the follow-up poll. A week tops for both combined. 2 week polls are far too long to try and account for those who are visit rarely. Please be around
So: If you're not fond of Shattered Star Community and the =SSC= tag, how do you feel about the idea I put forward with The Shattered Star and =STARS= (or STAR). Read #2 in the opening post if you haven't already.
This part of our name has always remained the same and has never been an issue for us so by choosing that we're already all in agreenace really, we're just not split over whatever name we might normally have stuck on the end of it. So we don't, we leave it at that. Or has someone got a better idea to put forward?
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Ok Sorry for getting to this a bit late, been tied up and busier than usual.
For me Shattered Star Community just seems redundant and doesn't really sound right. I see it the same way as saying Shattered Star Group or Shattered Star Guild, just looks odd to me.
I also don't like the tag SSC, it only has negative history attached to it as far as im concerned and its in no way appealing to see us go back to it.
I don't like the STARS tag, not only is it too long but it seems to be going to far away from our current identity.
I do however quite like just being Shattered Star, its just a shame that the tag would be SS which im pretty sure none of us would like to going round with. At the same time TSS and S2 don't appeal to me either. Not sure I can see a good tag though .
On a side note as I mentioned in one of the other threads I would like us to be clear on what our group naming policy would be at the end of this whole affair. Would we stick to the group name through all our games or would people be free to change it and if so how far? If we do go with Community and SSC could someone create an ingame group called Shattered Star Confederation. Personally I believe we should use the same name unless its already taken.
For me Shattered Star Community just seems redundant and doesn't really sound right. I see it the same way as saying Shattered Star Group or Shattered Star Guild, just looks odd to me.
I also don't like the tag SSC, it only has negative history attached to it as far as im concerned and its in no way appealing to see us go back to it.
I don't like the STARS tag, not only is it too long but it seems to be going to far away from our current identity.
I do however quite like just being Shattered Star, its just a shame that the tag would be SS which im pretty sure none of us would like to going round with. At the same time TSS and S2 don't appeal to me either. Not sure I can see a good tag though .
On a side note as I mentioned in one of the other threads I would like us to be clear on what our group naming policy would be at the end of this whole affair. Would we stick to the group name through all our games or would people be free to change it and if so how far? If we do go with Community and SSC could someone create an ingame group called Shattered Star Confederation. Personally I believe we should use the same name unless its already taken.
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As a quick run down of other letter combos if [STAR] is not your cup of tea..
[SHS]
[STR]
[SHA]
[SST]
[SSO] -> Shattered Star . Org
Or we could keep the X but just as a filler and no longer link it to Exiles - use it like they use X in Generation X.. i.e. not actually standing for anything.
[SHS]
[STR]
[SHA]
[SST]
[SSO] -> Shattered Star . Org
Or we could keep the X but just as a filler and no longer link it to Exiles - use it like they use X in Generation X.. i.e. not actually standing for anything.
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hmmm. Just a quick test with STR to see how that looks, rather than the full "STAR" or "STARS" as suggested:
Freespace group used to be the Burning Stars, Neocron went as both the "SSC UA" and "Exiles UA" (for our United Angels alliance) for a while, I believe they even went as "SSeX" at one point but I was out of the game at that point, WoW:EU were the Exiles of Shattered Star and our group in Star Citizen are the Shattered Star Community. We haven't done it very often but it's something we've always allowed and has never caused any problems to my knowledge. As long as the name is within reason (and shares shattered/star or whatever), we're still linking people back to the same place and we're all playing by the same ideal standards, I don't see why we'd suddenly stop allowing it tbh.
A discussion for another day though if it needs to be had.
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I don't see why this would change myself. Just do what we've always done and it be decided on a group by group basis, with the name we ultimately have above being the preferred choice for people to use.Isileth wrote:On a side note as I mentioned in one of the other threads I would like us to be clear on what our group naming policy would be at the end of this whole affair. Would we stick to the group name through all our games or would people be free to change it and if so how far? If we do go with Community and SSC could someone create an ingame group called Shattered Star Confederation. Personally I believe we should use the same name unless its already taken.
Freespace group used to be the Burning Stars, Neocron went as both the "SSC UA" and "Exiles UA" (for our United Angels alliance) for a while, I believe they even went as "SSeX" at one point but I was out of the game at that point, WoW:EU were the Exiles of Shattered Star and our group in Star Citizen are the Shattered Star Community. We haven't done it very often but it's something we've always allowed and has never caused any problems to my knowledge. As long as the name is within reason (and shares shattered/star or whatever), we're still linking people back to the same place and we're all playing by the same ideal standards, I don't see why we'd suddenly stop allowing it tbh.
A discussion for another day though if it needs to be had.
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I like 'The Shattered Star', using STAR as the tag. Taken off MS's graphic, we can always focus on the STAR tag as part of the logo, for example, a quick throw together in a 70's cop drama style 8D,,,
Sub background and SC ship for dungeon and warriors, or mechs and dropships, or put the graphics in the 'STAR', loads of options, all retroish
Jut my 2c.
And, to throw a cog in the works... The Shattered Star, which seems to be focused on, indicates a group that split, and the shattered connotation dictates that. If the Exiles' have survived and flourished in this new community, why not give it a new name?
How about 'Phoenix Star'
or, to go sciency with the formation of a new star,
'Protostar' or 'Protostar Alliance' or 'Exiles Protostar'
'Exile Phoenix'?
Just another 2c.
Sub background and SC ship for dungeon and warriors, or mechs and dropships, or put the graphics in the 'STAR', loads of options, all retroish
Jut my 2c.
And, to throw a cog in the works... The Shattered Star, which seems to be focused on, indicates a group that split, and the shattered connotation dictates that. If the Exiles' have survived and flourished in this new community, why not give it a new name?
How about 'Phoenix Star'
or, to go sciency with the formation of a new star,
'Protostar' or 'Protostar Alliance' or 'Exiles Protostar'
'Exile Phoenix'?
Just another 2c.
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I like The Shattered Star best of all the options given so far. It is our symbol afterall. And its simple, and easy to remember. Not sure on what tag to use though.
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Edit: Disregard the above. We forgot one major thing. Our domains. It needs to be Shattered Star something or other, or just the Shattered Star.
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I like STR.
I also like the idea of keeping the main group called The Shattered Star, or Shattered Star Community, while letting game groups name themselves whatever fits within the constraints of SS*
STR works for me though, STARS was too long and it is used a lot.
I don't think we should give up the Shattered Star part of this, considering all the holdings and work put into it already.
I also like the idea of keeping the main group called The Shattered Star, or Shattered Star Community, while letting game groups name themselves whatever fits within the constraints of SS*
STR works for me though, STARS was too long and it is used a lot.
I don't think we should give up the Shattered Star part of this, considering all the holdings and work put into it already.
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If we do go with Shattered Star, make note that I will go around as =SS=BlackDove, and if anyone asks me, I will refer them to you for an explanation.
That said, just Shattered Star was always the best option.
That said, just Shattered Star was always the best option.
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Anyone else?
It seems like we all like The Shattered Star (not without "The" since it abbreviates to "SS") idea so we just have to decide on a tag to go with that (or a couple), and we can then put those in a poll besides Shattered Star Community.
Tags mentioned so far:
STARS
STAR
TSS
STR
SHA
SST
SSO (shatteredstar.org)
SSX
I've included:
I quite like =SSO= as well after mulling it over a bit. It's not moving too far away from our previous tags either, keeping the SS[ ] For me it'd be a choice between: Shattered Star Community with [SSC] / [STR] / [SSO]. Or The Shattered Star with [STR] / [SSO].
I love STAR & STARS but I do agree that they're a bit long and will be much more commonly used tags. =STR= or =SSO= seem quite nice though. How does everyone else feel about those two? Do you have a favourite?. If we can narrow that down slightly I can put a poll up for:
Shattered Star Community - SSC
Shattered Star Community - Tag 1
The Shattered Star - Tag 1
Where Tag 1 is either STR or SSO. Or we could put both in there but then the poll would have 5 options which seems a bit much?. Up to you guys, what do you think?
It seems like we all like The Shattered Star (not without "The" since it abbreviates to "SS") idea so we just have to decide on a tag to go with that (or a couple), and we can then put those in a poll besides Shattered Star Community.
Tags mentioned so far:
STARS
STAR
TSS
STR
SHA
SST
SSO (shatteredstar.org)
SSX
I've included:
But whilst I've never had a problem with the tag itself, it has been linked to Exiles for 11 years now. Perhaps not such a good idea if we're moving with change and away from that name.NF wrote:Or we could keep the X but just as a filler and no longer link it to Exiles - use it like they use X in Generation X.. i.e. not actually standing for anything.
I quite like =SSO= as well after mulling it over a bit. It's not moving too far away from our previous tags either, keeping the SS[ ] For me it'd be a choice between: Shattered Star Community with [SSC] / [STR] / [SSO]. Or The Shattered Star with [STR] / [SSO].
I love STAR & STARS but I do agree that they're a bit long and will be much more commonly used tags. =STR= or =SSO= seem quite nice though. How does everyone else feel about those two? Do you have a favourite?. If we can narrow that down slightly I can put a poll up for:
Shattered Star Community - SSC
Shattered Star Community - Tag 1
The Shattered Star - Tag 1
Where Tag 1 is either STR or SSO. Or we could put both in there but then the poll would have 5 options which seems a bit much?. Up to you guys, what do you think?
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Sounds good MS. And agree on the SSX - was just a random thought.
I think I prefer STR over SSO for the poll purely because it conjures more of an image of Star than SSO.. as I cant help but think that we'll spend all our time explaining the "O"
I think I prefer STR over SSO for the poll purely because it conjures more of an image of Star than SSO.. as I cant help but think that we'll spend all our time explaining the "O"
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I like this...
Shattered Star Reconciles (SSTR)
just keeping the pot stirring
Shattered Star Reconciles (SSTR)
just keeping the pot stirring
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I have been away from this discussion for a while and it seems like a consensus is near, so I'll chime in my 2 cents
Personal preference:
Personal preference:
- Name: The Shattered Star
- Tag: TSS (if BD wants it can be fancified to [TSS] or =TSS= or ...
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How do these poll options look, guys?
#1 - Shattered Star Community [SSC]
#2 - Shattered Star Community [STR]
#3 - The Shattered Star [STR]
#4 - The Shattered Star [TSS]
Shattered Star Community & The Shattered Star with a choice of what their name naturally abbreviates to (SSC and TSS) vs the =STR= tag already mentioned above. Sound good?
#1 - Shattered Star Community [SSC]
#2 - Shattered Star Community [STR]
#3 - The Shattered Star [STR]
#4 - The Shattered Star [TSS]
Shattered Star Community & The Shattered Star with a choice of what their name naturally abbreviates to (SSC and TSS) vs the =STR= tag already mentioned above. Sound good?
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Sounds good to me.
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Poll is up
I've set it to 4 days but can be extended if needed.
I've set it to 4 days but can be extended if needed.
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What about an option of SSTR for Shattered Star?
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I'll add this into the poll in just a sec but we should leave it at that imo. For The Shattered Star though so as to distance ourselves from that SS tag.Ozone wrote:What about an option of SSTR for Shattered Star?
I'd have said if we were going with a 4 letter tag we might as well go with the full STAR but I would assume that SSTR would be far less common. Though I do quite like that STR could refer to "strength" as well, as some gamers may first associate that with.
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<censored>, adding that extra option has just wiped the votes
Anny, is there any way to get those votes back other than have people re-vote?. There were 5 votes for The Shattered Star | STR and 1 vote each for Shattered Star Community | SSC and The Shattered Star | TSS.
Sorry guys, didn't realise that would happen :/
[Edit2] No way to add the votes back without knowing exactly who voted. Really sorry for the inconvenience guys, please cast your vote again. No more options will be added now.
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Also some of those who had already voted might have wanted to switch their vote to the new option - so needed a fresh start again anyway imo.
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Re-voting is enabled so peeps can still do that if they want
I just hope some of the people who voted on Wed aren't the lesser active folk who voted and may not pop back for a while, not see my "please re-vote!" alerts and thus miss their chance. Some of those peeps are yet to do so as we had 7 votes last time and I hadn't voted yet. We're at 5 atm and that's included my vote so there's at least 3 people who haven't re-voted yet and that's assuming the other 4 are the same people who voted on Wed.
I've made a global announcement alert for re-voting as well as changing the thread title and adding it as our topic on IRC so there's enough warning there. Just have to hope people actually visit now to see them
I just hope some of the people who voted on Wed aren't the lesser active folk who voted and may not pop back for a while, not see my "please re-vote!" alerts and thus miss their chance. Some of those peeps are yet to do so as we had 7 votes last time and I hadn't voted yet. We're at 5 atm and that's included my vote so there's at least 3 people who haven't re-voted yet and that's assuming the other 4 are the same people who voted on Wed.
I've made a global announcement alert for re-voting as well as changing the thread title and adding it as our topic on IRC so there's enough warning there. Just have to hope people actually visit now to see them
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